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"Sex Positivism" and Pretextual Nonjudgmentalism
ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE COMMENT in response to Missouri appellate case holding that trial court could consider husband's exhibitionist masturbation in awarding custody of child to wife]: "Since this would be in the area of "value" would the evaluator defer on addressing this issue or is a conceptual sleight of hand appropriate, saying the father had impulse control and judgment problems." (Colorado doctorate-level MHP, January 12, 2004).
[ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE RESPONSE]: "I think there is a difference between someone flashing at the playground at Central Park and masturbating in a darkened porno theater." (New York doctorate-level MHP, January 12, 2004).
[ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE COMMENT]: "Step Dad admits to groping 14 year old female while asleep. Both were on couch watching TV. Claims history of sleep walking etc. Appreciate any information on this phenomenon. TIA" (California doctorate-level MHP, January 15, 2004).
[ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE RESPONSE]: "If you do a literature search on sleep walking you will find a fair amount of support for a hypothesis about wierd somnabulistic behaviors, even murder. If there is a family history and substantial personal history for sleep walking the case is stronger." (Colorado doctorate-level MHP, January 15, 2004)
[ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE RESPONSE]: "Evidence that would tend to increase or decrease its credibility might be found in a sleep study..." (Michigan doctorate-level MHP, January 15, 2004).
[ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE RESPONSE]: "Here is another reference I found: Sexsomnia:... Describes a distinct parasomnia involving sexual behaviour... Eleven patients (aged 16-43 yrs) with distinct behaviours of the sexual nature during sleep are described..." (Missouri doctorate-level MHP, January 17, 2004).
[ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE RESPONSE]: "There was a similar case recently in my locale - an enebriated man climbed into his own bed late one evening and briefly touched the breast of a 13 year old teen friend of his daughter spending the night before he fell into a deep slumber... " (Illinois doctorate-level MHP, January 17, 2004).
[NOTSOANYMOUS LISTSERVE COMMENT]: "The paraphilic "noncure" assertion seems bandied about like a mantra. However, as best as I can determine, it is simply a concept borrowed from AA propaganda... widely accepted uncritically... Does holding a desire, in whatever strength, which one never acts upon, or acts upon no longer, mean one still has the "problem?" If a "normal" (with no Hx of deviant behavior) shows arousal as measured by the PPG to images of nude children, is he pathological? ...seems to me a reasonable paraphilic construct might require a mens rea AND some deviant action." (Illinois doctorate-level MHP who usually works on the side of men accused of sex abuse in criminal actions and child custody disputes, March 20, 2007).
[NOTSOANONYMOUS LISTSERVE RESPONSE]: "I think there is something seriously wrong with a man whose favorite sexual fantasies involve children. That something wrong can be described as a personality disorder (in the developmental sense rather than the DSM sense of overall adjustment), or a borderline personality organization (in Kernberg's sense), or just as seriously disturbed (as I described in my book on child abuse). That disturbance is bound to manifest in intimate and ambiguous situations, in my opinion." (Denver doctorate-level MHP professor, March 20, 2007).
- [Over a period of six years, while the subjects of child sex abuse allegations as well as pornography repeatedly were raised, the rare point of view -- that a parent's sexual disorder is bound to manifest in various ways, even if not in literal child sexual abuse as legally defined -- was never once expressed by an MHP on the anonymous listserve of child custody evaluators. The opinions were readily contra, however, if the disorder did not involve sex and was a mother's disorder. See, e.g., infra.]
[ANONYOMOUS LISTSERVE COMMENT]: "[]'s workshops are the best I've ever attended. He has graciously shared his time and materials with me. I'm stunned," (Missouri doctorate-level MHP, July 14, 2007.
[ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE COMMENT]: "...we should not jump to conclusions in either direction. If the charges are not valid, an unspeakable wrong has been done to him." (California doctorate-level MHP, July 14, 2007).
[ANONYMOUS LISTSERVE COMMENT]: "Absolutely! These should be no rush to judgment. We know much good about [] and nothing whatsoever about this allegation..." (Illinois doctorate-level MHP, July 14, 2007).
[NOTSOANONYMOUS LISTSERVE]: "Stu's alleged criminal conduct sounds incredibly flawed and not to be condoned in any way (example he is no longer listed on the ABFP diplomate website). Nonetheless, I remain quite concerned about him as a person and sent him my support in that regard in an email sent yesterday..." (Colorado doctorate-level MHP, July 14, 2007).
[NOTSOANONYMOUS LISTSERVE]: "I would also respectfully suggest that, especially in our public comments, we express equal concern for the alleged victims..." [FOLLOWUP]: " I'm just noting that one of the alleged victims was reportedly a psychologist in his office - which means that this person is also a colleague and may have access to professional listservs. I can only imagine how it would feel to be in her position, if the allegations are true, and then to sign on to professional lists to see concern expressed only for Stu. I'm just suggesting that if we are withholding judgment at this time, we express concern for both sides." (California doctorate-level MHP, July 15, 2007).
[NOTSOANONYMOUS LISTSERVE]: "It is appropriate to express concern and outrage for victims of crimes. It is also appropriate to express concern and outrage for perpetrators of crimes... In my work in the correctional system for the last three years, I have learned a lesson that few who work outside the walls realize: perpetrators are also victims of their own deeds. Crime is a tragedy no matter who is involved." (Washington doctorate-level MHP, July 15, 2007).
[NOTSOANONYMOUS LISTSERVE]: "How highly inappropriate to remove him from the ABPP website before he had been found guilty of anything. I don't know who made the decision to remove him, but I think ABPP people would be among the last persons to do such a thing given their journeymen positions in our profession." [FOLLOWUP] "I just went to the ABPP website and Stu Greenberg is still listed." (California doctorate-level MHP, July 15, 2007).
- The last post above was a child custody evaluator who specializes in sex abuse allegations. He and others exhibit the very common MHP confusion over appropriate standards of proof when questionable behavior also could be a crime is raised in another milieu, requiring for all purposes the criminal standard of proof and a conviction, versus evidence (such as a confession) that otherwise should be adequate in civil court to take protective or compensatory action. Below, "overly" restrictive? Bias, anyone? Also see Self-Protection Above All
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-index/site-index-frame.html#soulhttp://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-index/site-index-body.html#Parental Alienation
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